Webstock recordings now available

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Recordings from Webstock 08 are now online. If you weren’t able to attend, you can see what all the fuss was about. If you were, you can catch up on the streamed sessions you may have missed and relive the whole experience. We know there’s going to be a lot of interest in these recordings.

There’s a couple of sessions that weren’t recorded, and this was the decision of the speaker, which we fully respect. And we’re hoping to have slides from a number of the sessions available next week.

Enjoy!

27 thoughts on “Webstock recordings now available”

  1. Nathan Carter

    What a bummer Michael Lopp and Damian Conway’s recordings aren’t available – I’m guttered! Anyone sneakily record Michaels Friday session??

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  2. Mike Brown

    Nathan – Michael (and Damian and Jill Whalen) really didn’t want their sessions recorded for good reasons – please respect that. We’d be unhappy if anyone did record them and made available.

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  3. Nathan Carter

    Hey Mike, fair enough I can accept that. Pitty tho, I heard Michael’s Friday talk was epic.

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  4. Johnny-johnny

    I’m with Nathan on this one, bummer. I understand that from the Apple guy… but from the Perl guy…? Disappointing.

    What be these good reasons we need to respect?

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  5. Johnny-johnny

    Maybe for the future it’d be cool to know who isn’t going to allow their session to be recorded. It would help when choosing between streamed sessions if one will be online later while the other won’t.

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  6. Mike Brown

    John – good point about advance notice of which won’t be recorded. One of those little things that got lost in the rush!

    As to why? We made it clear to speakers that we’d like to record, but if for any reason they didn’t want that, no problem, it wasn’t going to be an issue for us. Their indicating they didn’t want it was a good reason for us 🙂

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  7. Adam

    Are any of those links working? I think r2.co.nz is goneburgers.

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  8. Mike Brown

    @Adam – yeah, site seems to be getting hammered. They’re looking into it and we’ll be looking at some other options like mirroring and seeding some torrents. Be patient 🙂

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  9. Bruno

    Yeah. Bittorrent would be a nice option. r2.co.nz is completely dead.

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  10. Phil

    Any word on torrents? I have been trying to download all day with no luck. Would love to see other options as mentioned.

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  11. R2

    On Thursday we had to increase a process parameter to cope with the demand. That happened at around 1 or 2pm.

    The server is only 1% busy, and network traffic is steady.

    The server has a 100Mbps connection and is peered on WIX. Transit is limited by financial constraints – we’ll look at upgrading that. What isn’t helping is folks who point a downloader at the site and say “get it all” – theres about 10GBytes of video for Webstock 08 thats downloadable.

    What you need to do is a traceroute to see how you get to the server.

    Theres a few more files going up at the moment – new Webstock ones.

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  12. Leitz

    Thanks for putting in the effort to fix the connection, but I still cannot download the files sufficiently fast, it’s downing at 3 kb/s. Maybe mirrors could provide an alternative? 🙂 cheers

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  13. Walter Rumsby

    Are there any plans to put these on YouTube or a similar site?

    (Just thinking if these were on YouTube then they could easily be embedded in blog posts, etc.)

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  14. André Cravo

    Well, my download rate is in the 2/3 kb per second. This really needs to be in torrents. Can’t you guys put this in a tracker? By the way 🙂 , and the most important thing, thanks for putting this online. This is really a huge gift for all of us that couldn’t go to the conference and for those who wish to remember how great it was. Big Thanks for you guys.

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  15. Mike

    @Andre – ah, some thanks! 🙂

    To all – we’re doing our best. We’re constrained by this all being a labour of love for us, as opposed to our actual paying jobs. There’s limited time we have to devote to investigating alternative formats, torrents etc. We’re also constrained, unfortunately, by New Zealand’s less than ideal broadband situation.

    Can I just say, on behalf of Webstock, that we’re really appreciative of the work Richard and Jeremy at R2 are doing for us!

    And remember, the videos aren’t going anywhere. They’ll still be here next week when demand will probably have lessened.

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  16. R2

    Please remember that the last week end was a long one (Public Holiday) So it was difficult to get changes made. We have been trying to move to an international cache, but the holiday week end prevented that.

    I’ll repeat what I said earlier – the issue os one of international bandwidth. Yesterday when NZers were back at work, we saw a big jump in both streaming viewers and download traffic. Over 1,000%. In NZ if you or your ISP peer at APE or WIX (and that includes Xtra and TCL) you should have no issues getting files or watching the streams. If you do, then its your connection of your ISP.
    Our ISP does peer with Xtra and TCL but we are aware that they (Xtra and TCL) may have issue internally. We see it regularly with other clients and often install caches at a clients location.

    What we have been seeing is our International traffic at the maximum we buy. So yesterday we negotiated a large 500% increase in bandwidth. It has cost half our fee to Webstock, so we now run at a loss. We also now have more international bandwidth than many Govt departments – to give you an idea of the scale. Not bad for a private website.

    To repeat – if you are downloading, you have a total of around 10-12 GBytes. There over 20 hours of video for webstock. I suggest downloading one video at a time. Spread them out, say one per night. This gives others a chance to get a file or two.

    And please remember that the videos won’t go away. In 8 or 9 years we have yet to delete a video – we stilll have viewers for Webstock 06. So maybe you don’t need to download them all at once. You will have to watch them one at a time.

    The videos have also been put in the most usefull format, so you should be able to convert for your iPod or PSP, diskplayer etc. Serving up flash wouldn’t help the issue and the files are too big for YouTube.

    FYI – just copying the files from a firewire disk to the server took 40minutes.

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  17. André Cravo

    Hi. Just want you to know that it now goes faster. I’m getting one file at a time and the rate moved from the 2/3 kbs to 8/10 kbs (and I’m in Portugal). Once again thanks for the effort in putting this online. Big Thanks.

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  18. Sam Brown

    Unfortunately I am still getting less than 3kb/s in the UK, have been since the launch. Appreciate the effort you are putting in but I have yet haven’t seen a difference.

    Would be a great ease on your servers and costs by providing torrents for the big files, hopefully you consider that at some point in the future.

    Look forward to seeing these videos at some point soon.

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  19. Fred Oliveira

    I have to agree with Sam Brown on this one. I’m still getting speeds of under 3Kb/s downloading these files (meaning the smallest video still takes almost 12 hours to download). I guess the best way to solve this problem is to build a torrent for these videos – that way everyone shares bandwidth and your bills are split in thousands. It doesn’t take over 10 minutes to create the torrent file and make it available either.

    Another option (which I emailed about) is using S3 to put these up in the cloud. That would pretty much solve the problem for everyone as well, although it would still involve paying someone (in this case, Amazon) for the hosting and transfers.

    Bittorrent is the way, guys 🙂

    Again, thanks for making these available!

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  20. Dirk Geurs

    Yes, I think Torrents would be a good solution to the bandwith problem. I have been trying to download a recording over the weekend but i’m only getting speeds of around 3 kb/s.

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  21. R2

    The ISP which provides the International capacity has asked for some traceroutes. So some non-NZ downloaders, would youplease publish here or email a traceroute to http://www.R2.co.nz
    to me at info (at) R2.co.nz

    Thanks

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  22. Dirk Geurs

    R2, i just send an e-mail with my traceroute to your e-mail address. I hope it helps.

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  24. Jorge Pedroso

    As I don’t have all the videos yet, I’m thinking in uploading the videos I already have one by one. Let me know what you think is best way to upload this via bittorrent, if one by one or a complete bundle.

    I’ll be forwarding the links to Mike and he will publicise them.

    Btw, my apologies to Dan Cederholm for the mistype in his name.

    Thanks.

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  26. Fred Oliveira

    Thanks for the link, Jorge. I’ll help seed the 1st day recordings on a 100mbit connection so everyone in europe should have a good time downloading.

    R2 guys: can we just do torrents for everything, please?

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